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The presenter and journalist Dunja Hayali has one “Migration record background” and is known for dealing with extremes. Both are often not well received. In the star podcast “Die Boss” she tells what she has learned from it and reveals that she was against gender for a long time.
Dunja Hayali has been working as a TV presenter for ZDF for fourteen years and she has been noticed for just as long. The attributions started with her job in public, she says. “Woman, foreground of migration, short dark hair, tattooed, sexually flexible”, Hayali only lists a few of her characteristics that often make her exotic.
In addition, there are supposed contradictions, which Hayali is repeatedly asked about. So she describes herself as conservative, but doesn’t want to look like that. She says she is a German patriot, but that equality in Germany only exists on paper. It is important to Hayali to take a stand – and yet she always seeks dialogue with people who think differently, including populists, for example.”What I have learned in the last few years in particular, when dealing with extremes from left to right, is that people also need structure, support, prejudices and pigeonhole thinking. So that you feel more secure yourself”, says the 47-year-old.
Dunja Hayali gives advice that a surprising number of women do not follow
She has also gained new insights in other areas – and in some cases has changed her mind. “I also had to learn why it is important that we are LGBTQI (Abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer and intersexual, editor’s note) say. I’ve always resisted it, including gender. But these are learning processes and that is why I am a friend of staying in dialogue and not giving up”, she says.
Being exotic, attracting attention, expressing an opinion – Dunja Hayali talks about all of this in the stern podcast “Die Boss” with host Simone Menne. Hayali also talks about the moment in her career that still gives her goose bumps when she thinks back on it. And she gives all women who want to get ahead in their careers a piece of advice that a surprising number of women do not heed.
In “The boss power is female” Top women talk to each other: hostess and multi-supervisory board member Simone Menne (including BMW, Deutsche Post DHL, Henkel) meets bosses from all areas of society to talk to them about their lives and careers. D.he episode with Dunja Hayali was released in the context of dhe the bossMasterclasses, the interactive podcast event of the stern, recorded. “Die Boss” appears fortnightly on Wednesdays and on des sternas well as on and all common podcast platforms.
Jane Stock is a technology author, who has written for 24 Hours World. She writes about the latest in technology news and trends, and is always on the lookout for new and innovative ways to improve his audience’s experience.
