Evelyn Burdecki and Laura Karasek: “My only true friend in business”

What happens when an unfiltered jungle queen meets a ingenious lawyer? The result is a podcast that is as honest as chaotic. From July 11, Evelyn Burdecki (36) and Laura Karasek (43) talk about what concerns everyone at Podimo every Friday: the big and small disasters of life. “What is wrong with us?” is – and the two TV announcements take this question so seriously that they are ready to completely undress emotionally.

In conversation with the news agency Spot on News tell Evelyn Burdecki and Laura Karasek, why they give up the perfect chaos duo despite completely different life paths – and which still connects them. They also reveal how Laura is standing by her girlfriend in finding the right man – and why she would even defend her in court if necessary.

Laura Karasek: Evelyn and I have known each other for years, and although our résumés are completely different – law studies meet at the jungle camp – we found that we are surprisingly connected: humor, empathy, chaos. I found it attractive to let two worlds meet without playing them out against each other. Difference is not an obstacle – it is added value.

Evelyn Burdecki: I was asked for a podcast and thought directly of Laura. It just matt. Two brains who meet: I am more of the brain peasant slue and she is the brain. There is an explosion. This mix is ​​awesome – that would work with no one else except with Laura. I learn from her, she learns from me. She has her stories, I have mine, that makes the podcast so exciting.

Burdecki: Something is just not true with us. (laughs)

Karasek: The title actually originated from one of our “sleepless” voice messages – we talk about misfortunes, falling feeling, overnight donations in the thought … and at some point you ask yourself: What is actually wrong with us? Almost everyone knows this feeling. Evelyn and I don’t take myself too seriously – and maybe that’s our greatest strength: forbearance and humor. We want to show: Even if you have the impression that you are too alive, too emotional or too much – we are there for you, because we are just as stupid.

Burdecki: We are very open. We from the glamor world have exactly the same problems as the others and I think it is important that you also admit this as a person to the public. We only go to the toilet like everyone out there. The great thing is that we may even be able to help. It’s a bit like Domian, just two with us, who then listen and talk about the problems.

Karasek: It is good to laugh at things, talk about things, be honest and not pretend that everything is always smooth. Especially on social media, where everyone always claims that everything is perfect and “blessed”.

Burdecki: There are topics in which we are very emotional and of course make ourselves vulnerable. In a podcast you simply dare to chat out of the sewing box. We will completely undress. We undress without thinking about it. I will reveal a lot more than, for example, in TV interviews because it is so cozy.

Burdecki: Laura is a lawyer – that’s like in court. (laughs) She presses the right button and then I get out as if I am doing a testimony.

Karasek: It’s like interrogation, I use all the techniques that I master. (laughs) I am a lawyer – I learned to deliver arguments. But the podcast is not about evidence, but about feelings. Evelyn manages to disarm people with her fearlessness – including me. We give each other space, nothing has to be perfect. That makes talk so easy, even about things that you would prefer to be silent about.

Burdecki: Laura also promised me high and holy: if I explicit too much and somehow make myself punishable, she defends me in court. Then she put my hand on it.

Burdecki: We are open, we are nice for everyone – whether it is the toilet man or the intern. That is the magic between us: we are different, but we can deal with each other. Many can no longer do that these days because they differentiate between the lawyer and the abrasive and that is very sad. This is our message: we treat everyone the same and have an open ear for everyone. And because we are both so easy to understand, we get along.

Karasek: We connect that we like humans and do not wear a mask. Evelyn is completely free of prejudice, she does not adjust. I like that, because that’s how I am. I believe in tolerance, emotional intelligence and that humor is a form of coping with the world. We laugh at ourselves – never about others. In a world that has often become so cool and pejorative, this is almost shocking.

Burdecki: Laura is my only true friend in this business world. She is honest, I can call her at three in the morning, also drunk. If you have just screwed up a date, Laura is always there for you. I trust her one hundred percent and that’s the most important thing.

Burdecki: Of course. Laura has already had experiences, she has a family – that is what I don’t have yet. When I send her a picture selection of men, she says: “Number three is the right one”. She already has a good eye. This is gold value when you have a friend who is familiar with the selection of men. If she says: “Better take the lawyer instead of the tax advisor”, then I do it. She also sends me pictures of potential candidates from time to time.

Karasek: I have some male friends who absolutely want to get to know Evelyn. A long line has now formed, but they can stand in the back. Now I’m tuned for now. (laughs)

Burdecki: Nothing works without my lawyer!

Karasek: Yes, there was now the first argument. We are like an old couple: we are out of the first phase of love, and now in the introductory phase shortly before moving in there are the first heated discussions.

Burdecki: It starts slowly, the true face comes out. Now I have already seen the question of how long the podcast will run. (laughs)

Karasek: The greatest proof of love is if I can also argue with a friend. After all, I also argue very violently with my family and still love them. Those who are really friends can also argue without questioning everything. It would be boring if we were agreed in everything.

Burdecki: Even if we have no contact for many days, that’s okay. On the fifth day it starts again.

Burdecki: We made an appointment for sport … but we usually celebrate life when we meet. We take a drink and chat and of course we also brainstorms what you can still do. It never gets boring with us. We are a women’s power duo, which is then rather loud than quiet.

Karasek: Evelyn and I do not meet in the morning at half past eight for a chamomile tea. This is neither our time nor our drink. With us it is usually in the middle of the night and not too reasonable.

Burdecki: Of course we are looking for the answer, but it would be a shame if we find it soon because the podcast would be over. So it can take a few more years to find out what is wrong with us. So we should think so up to 60.

Karasek: Besides, it is also like this with problems: you have solved one and there are three new ones. I think we always find new things that are not right with us. In this respect, this is a lifelong search and that is also the nice thing. You don’t necessarily want to arrive, but continue to be on the go. Nothing is more boring than a fulfilled longing. So I hope that longing will last until the end of life.

Burdecki: Of course that would be a lifelong dream. Some would say: “I don’t want to grow old with problems.” We say we would like to grow old with problems because it is simply part of life.