Luisa Neubauer did not save with “Markus Lanz” with harsh accusations against the Union and was particularly tough on Armin Laschet. The moderator was also very critical. He appealed for the “hypocrisy” to be disclosed. You have to make it clear to people what is in store for them in terms of climate protection.
Who was aware of the explosive nature of the situation and when? “Our chief of fire brigade earned the laughter of colleagues when he said we have to prepare,” reported Erik O. Schulz. Nevertheless: “Our crisis team met on the night from Monday to Tuesday. When it started, everyone was ready for action.” The Lord Mayor of the city of Hagen in North Rhine-Westphalia was connected to “Markus Lanz” on Wednesday evening. He, too, is a witness to reconstruct the events in connection with the flood disaster. According to the politician, the first warnings were sent by the German Weather Service (DWD). “Nobody had any idea what would come of it in the end,” said Schulz. This extent could not have been foreseen. “Anyone who denies climate change in the face of these images must ask himself whether it can be taken seriously.” Nevertheless, there is currently little space for political discussions. Now it is a matter of taking care of the usability of the infrastructure. In addition, the clean-up work is in progress. Bulky rubbish lying on the streets is cleared away every day from 5.30 a.m. to 10 p.m. There is no question about it: there is a lot to be done. And the question is where and who lends a hand. More than ever, climate policy issues are on the agenda for ZDF talker Markus Lanz.
Climate discussion in the ZDF program “Markus Lanz”
Also guests in the panel discussion:
- Luisa Neubauer, climate protection activist
- Claudia Pahl-Wostl, systems scientist
- Monika Schnitzer, economist
- Wiebke Winter, CDU politician
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The time. Might run away. Or will it even? “That is a huge problem,” said Neubauer. And appealed: “We have to get started.” The climate crisis is approaching us unchecked. She pointed out that one had known for at least 30 years. And ask yourself what still has to happen. The flood disaster is a “consequence of the political refusal to take scientific warnings seriously.” Climate protection is not a “sideline” or just a “leisure activity for boys”. With the current politics, especially the Union, she was severely judged. The CDU lags behind its own electorate: “It is absurd what is happening in this party, because there are many who want really good climate protection.” She does not understand that, as is currently the case, you help people and then sit back at your desk and carry on just as before: “That is cynical and lying.” – “Harsh reproach,” objected Lanz. Has nothing really happened? What is the truth, for example, of Armin Laschet’s statement that North Rhine-Westphalia is one of the federal states that is doing the most against climate change, and that no other federal state has saved so much CO2? “That is a lie,” claimed Neubauer.
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On Tuesday’s broadcast, Lanz said that “someone like Luisa Neubauer” speaks easier than Armin Laschet because he has to keep an eye on many other areas, such as jobs that have been lost in favor of climate policy. It’s a shame that he didn’t make this objection when the activist was sitting with him in the studio. Because: As explosive as the situation is, permanent allegations do not help. How do you get the majority of people on board at all? One would also have to think about whether, for example, “We have to save the climate” is not formulated too abstractly. In addition, it is important, according to Pahl-Wostl, “to get out of the ideological trenches”. In her argument, the scientist opened up spaces that are unfortunately often missing in climate-activist debates. She suggested that it should be made clear to people that climate change should not be equated with renunciation and control. Because new ideas have to be developed, “fields of experimentation where society can reinvent itself” would arise. Cities, for example, can be made so liveable “that you no longer want to fly to Mallorca”.
Winter, co-founder of the “KlimaUnion”, objected that this was alien to life: “I don’t want to live in a world in which we can no longer go on vacation.” However, she also gave consideration: “We have to make sure that we take society with us.” Alone: She did not explain how exactly that should work. In her own party, however, she wants to put a lot more pressure on: “I want the CDU to represent a more ambitious climate policy at the federal level.” There were only 18 to 24 months left to take the right steps. She pointed out several times that climate protection would be worthwhile for everyone “in the end”, also financially. “What does ‘at the end’ mean, how many years are that?”, Asked Lanz and persisted – and thus had a crucial point that is neglected in all climate protection appeals, the question of what is required of us. “You don’t ask people to do anything,” he repeated. According to the moderator, one has to stop “hypocrisy” and “make oneself honest”.
Isn’t climate policy at the expense of the “socially weak”? Neubauer said that this is exactly why one must get involved in social politics. “Climate protection can be social, heating costs could be distributed differently,” she said. And made it clear: “Inaction is the most expensive and most unsocial thing”. The current catastrophe shows that people who are financially weaker are now disadvantaged when they are faced with the ruins of their livelihoods. Pahl-Wostl also made it clear how expensive it would be if disasters, as was to be foreseen, were to pile up: “We can no longer subordinate climate protection to economic interests.” Economist Schnitzer referred to CO2 pricing, which is a good example of a steering effect. “There is no need for bans.” That would already make people behave differently.
“Where do we get the electricity from?”
However, according to Lanz, there are not only reservations about costs, but also: Who wants wind turbines on their doorstep, who wants routes? An astonishing answer from Schnitzer: “In Holland there have been wind turbines on old paintings for a long time and we think it’s beautiful there.” So why not look at the whole thing differently? And whoever has something against wind turbines should pay more than those who tolerate them. Lanz gave another example of questions that need to be clarified: With electric cars, electricity consumption will increase enormously; Where do we get the multiple – he stated the factor ten – of electricity? “We can’t do that in our own country,” said Schnitzer. She left it open where we should import the electricity. And promised “new technologies” that could be “used at some point”, including nuclear fusion. Nuclear fusion! They would also have liked to have known more precisely, but remained unanswered. At some point Lanz brought the sentence and introduced that he was quoting freely from Jens Spahn: “At some point we will have to tell each other a lot of truths.” One would like to reply: better yesterday than tomorrow. May his appeal to be honest not go unheard.
You can see the complete “Markus Lanz” broadcast in the ZDF media library.
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