The wait at the entrance to the farm for the long -awaited dialogue became more extensive than usual, since the current health situation of the former president José Mujica It forces him to eat through a gastric probe, so it was necessary to await the first meal of the day without inconvenience.
Almost an hour after planned Lucia Topolansky He approached the door. “Excuse me, but you have to get used to this. In these times I can no longer plan anything, ”he says while accompanying this journalist for the recesses of the entrance between vegetables and freshly collected flowers from work on Earth.
“It’s going to do so … until you leave,” is the final phrase with which he closes that accompaniment path to the living room where Mujica waits with the greeting of rigor. The phrase is resonating, before returning to the leader of the MPP The corresponding greeting. The brief begins, but fruitful dialogue with Scope.
What analysis does the progress of the rights that have been giving in the world with messages such as those transmitted by Donald Trump or Javier Milei?
– There is something we usually call right, which is conservative thought, which must be taken into account because sometimes it also makes its formidable contributions. And this is much more ultra, it goes to another angle, because it is questioning the foundations of open society, it comes into questioning the validity of democracy itself, understanding democracy as a guarantee for the duel of ideas, with legal guarantees. Inevitably that career of hatred, in the end tends to lead to a cut of current democratic guarantees, which is the right to think independent, to propagate their ideas, to live in a society that maintains its unity, but accepts its diversity from the point institutional, which was the foundation of the liberal revolution.
The most curious thing is that they are called liberals, and what they are least, are liberal in the deep sense of the term, because the concept of liberal merely can be reduced to the pathological statement of the market economy. It is much more than that, it is not just an economic formula. It was what opened the door ideologically to the advent of democratic coexistence, accept and organize society giving institutional guarantee to those who think differently. Today they are organizing authoritarianism and liberalism has a regime against that, against the dogmatism of absolute monarchies.
– In that context, what space does progressivism and the new Uruguay government?
– He who can achieve for himself. Actually, it is summarized in this: after the democratic pact, the conservative parties of Uruguay, White and Colorados, governed 25 years. Our extensive front ruled 15 years. During the 25 years that they ruled salaries and retirement increased more or less 13%. The 15 years that ruled the front all wages widely exceeded that figure. I know the whites historically because I am old. When they govern, they cannot improve the workers’ pocket. There is something somatic inside them that is not allowed.
What message does young people give?
– Today there is a crisis in them, a crisis of the future. I tell you to cultivate is hope and that they commit to reality. I tell you to commit. And that in life it is worth being good, even if they take you for Gil, because in the end you will take stock. And if you were good and committed to your society, at the end of the long one there will be a large margin for what you are going to recognize. And there is no greater happiness than helping to be a little happier to our contemporaries.
Source: Ambito
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